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Callum. I have to say, and I take no joy from saying it, your premise that by NOT making cuts and having a ‘bloated state’ is stopping ‘growth’ is absurd.

That view is as old as the hills Callum. It’s the very knee jerk reaction that has been regurgitated for decades.

If you and the IEA are to be serious about ‘growth’ then I appeal to you to look in the other direction.

Our state can be managed better, for sure. Can it be reduced by streamlining the economic framework yes. Are we being led by dimwits yes, and have been for decades!

But, if you honestly think we can grow our economy by NOT having schools crumbling, hospitals crumbling, roads crumbling, police crumbling, and more unemployment and more poverty or a benefits system that doesn’t benefit or s pension system that pays half of a minimum wage then I’m sorry Callum and all at the IEA I think you are deluding yourselves.

Unless you see that you will never reach the right conclusions.

Cuts have been made for decades. Underfunding has been the reality for decades. Tax hikes to cover their and our costs has been the mantra for decades. It’s been happening for decades. Borrowing has had to be the ‘plug’ of choice for decades and now we are do deep in debt that we are beginning to realise that, the cost of that debt is unsustainable to the point we can’t even pay the interest on that debt without further borrowing!

I know you all see this. It’s not really a secret that just a think tank will understand. Not anymore.

Everyone sees it! You don’t have to sell it to us. It’s as clear as daylight.

But, your voice that says cutting an already broken public sector or government expenditure is no longer plausible. I assert, It’s not ‘socialism’ or the ‘devils thinking’ that sees we need to ‘stop’ cutting. It’s the people that are saying it. Ask anyone if they want good hospitals, pensions, roads, services etc they will all say yes!

I think there is a confrontation of views because the IEA want to have the right to say, their view is correct because the IEA is NOT socialist. That’s weaponising a view that doesent stack up if anyone was saying it in the political spectrum.

Cutting costs doesn’t on its own give you ‘growth’. It just takes money from one side of the balance sheet and place it in the other.

Any accountant can do that! That’s not special or new nor is it good enough for government or leadership. I blame Thatcher for this phenomenon. She always treated her job by treating our economy like a household budget. How stupid. You can’t run an economy on such blinkered and narrow minded two dimensional thinking.

Our economy has a limited snd finite amount of money. If you adopt a two dimensional, double sided bookkeeping, money in and money out view of our economy then you get a blinkered and narrow minded view of it!

And I’m sorry to say Callum, you in turn are still adopting the same blinkered snd narrow minded view of our economy. But with the added view that NOT cutting is somehow a ‘socialist’ view. It’s not. Ask anyone?

Our economy is stagnant. It’s not stagnant because we haven’t done enough cutting! And more cutting will automatically give us growth and a non stagnant economy. The cost is the cost. You can’t keep expecting the cost to be less. Or get people to work twice as hard for half the money. Or put up with crumbling infrastructure because that’s an household budget view of an economy?

No.

The problem our economy we have is the same accrued the western world. Our capitalist economy allows money to be hoarded. Away and outside our grasp.

It’s not difficult to understand, is it?

It’s not party political to see imbalance!

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