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A very interesting subject Kristian. On the one hand the government wants to pay those in need of financial help. And on the other hand they have to reduce the cost of this help to government. Because they are themselves underfunded with too little tax take.

And here lies the rub! No matter what they do the government can’t afford their choices. But more worrying they never will! They pretend that they have the model that can do what’s needed within the budget they award.

But the gap never closes! No matter what scheme they scheme up they can never make ends meet. They are trying to water down either the amount they pay or pay a fewer amount of people by deliberately excluding swathes of citizens who should be entitled to help all because the tax take us insufficient to do the right thing. We are all underfunded. But in this matter the government is underfunded. So instead of doing the right thing they, do the wrong thing and cut! Stating unaffordable ad the reason. Or let’s cut bureaucracy as a reason to pick a way to give to all, like a state pension.

You Kristian state good arguments why a UBI is not fair. Or why a targeted help us better. But what you are not looking at is how the system can raise its game. How can the government get more tax income? How can the economy grow to give the tax income we need to afford a really good fair and inclusive system? You don’t seem to see its money supply that causes an underfunding. Because it seems you assume all money is in play all of the time and clearly it’s not.

I’ve been replying to these blogs for a while now. And nowhere have you or anyone at the IEA responded lied to me, argued with me debated with me or looked at the framework to establish a better system?

If money is insufficient within the economy, not enough of our money is being SPENT in sufficient amounts in sufficient time then of course the economy will be slow!

If after decades of this underfunding the ‘contestants’ in this game are devoid of sufficient throughput to give the required tax take what do you think would be the result? Is it not exactly what we see now? A government do in debt and a pit of money that goes nowhere to do what we expect a government to do? Doesn’t it explain our present position of a lack of money? The rich getting rich and the poor getting poor? A few mega rich individuals who don’t have to spend money, who lend money and get rich off not spending? And a government looking at stupid schemes to cut costs?

Look the truth is that without a ready supply of money being freely spent no business can be done at the pace required. Unless you want a society of mega rich next to mega poor like the USA or Brazil it Venezuela or China or Russia then keep going.

But if we want a proper system, one that works, it’s easy! You have to make all money move, all of the time, rather than like now where insufficient money in a slow time is being SPENT.

The government are trying to squeeze the pops out if this failed monetary system. Trying to put more and more taxes on a declining system.

The rich are starting to say tax us! But it’s not a tax we need. It’s all that money being freely SPENT! We gave taxes already in place to suck up the tsunami of revenue that increased spending will attract. It’s called VAT and DUTY. But moreover it triggers more income tax snd nic as more people are employed to supply they need invigorated money supply.

That’s growth Kristian!

Schemes like UBI are just that. A scheme. We need a proper answer. Not a false move.

We are not skint! There is £19 trillion pounds out there. Apparently! If they were to be spent just once? In one whole year, the resultant vat should be £3.8 trillion pounds! Four times our present state of affairs from all taxation! So it’s obvious our money is NOT in the economic system!

That’s the problem do I ask you to start investigating this? Where is our money and why is it not in our pot?

Because if it was. There wouldn’t be a problem of underfunding. No, we’d be swimming in the stuff!

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